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October 17, 2005
[EuroOSCON] Ruby On Rails tutorial
Jarkko Laine is giving the Ruby On Rails tutorial. So far he is going swiftly through the standard "How to do a Blog in RoR" example. While I can see the need for doing this type of example, it would be nice to see other examples used in tutorials, as I can grab similar from somewhere else. Jarkko is also not as deeply into Rails as I would like - ok on the standard stuff but he is not so sure with questions that go beyond that.
The second part of the tutorial consisted of testing in RoR, Ajax, Simple RSS feed, caching and routing.
In all the tutorial gave quick insights into each of the topics but lacked the depth in places. Maybe that's calling for too much in a half-day tutorial? But tutorials should give me more than I can get from watching available RoR videos and reading the Rails book. Cheaper too.
Posted by Matthew at October 17, 2005 09:58 AM
Comments
Looks like kind of the AOP syndrom where everybody agreed it was super-nice and super-useful but no one for a couple of years could give more example than a simple logging system.
Posted by: Anonymous at October 17, 2005 12:02 PM
Maybe he's just a bit nervous, but I'm rather disappointed about the depth of his answers. Using @flash without a redirect is really a bit of a beginner mistake...
Posted by: Thijs van der Vossen at October 17, 2005 12:27 PM
Thijs: You got me there. But hey, if David got away with mixing up the side of the foreign key field in a has_one-belongs_to relationship in his speech, I also reserve the right to make the blunder of using flash instead of flash.now :-P
Matthew: Yeah, the tutorial covered a pretty ambitous slice of Rails so the depth was an obvious victim. Three hours is an awful short time especially when you start from scratch (and I wanted to because that's a big part of the rails-fu).
The tutorial was to a large extent the same that David gave in Portland in August. I got to stand in for him in a hurry so there wasn't much time for me to change the tutorial (not that I would have wanted to). I agree that a weblog is slowly becoming a bit boring demo application but I still find it good because it covers just about all the aspects that were suitable for such a tutorial.
But thanks for the comments. You're right about the depth of my knowledge. I'm obviously no David. But I still hope most of the people got a good picture of how easy building a fairly extensive application in no time can be on Rails.
Posted by: Jarkko Laine at October 18, 2005 12:10 AM